Hiding that it's a triplet....

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Started by Adam Cuerden on 2006-01-06 21:41:07

It strikes me that a lot of workarounds become available if we were given the ability to hide that little 3 above the triplet.... I'm going to try and give an example.

What's This?

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb
|TimeSig|Signature:9/8
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-3
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:1
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=First
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=First
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-3
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

What's This?

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble|OctaveShift:Octave Down
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,n-1,1,4|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,1
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,3
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,0
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,1
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,2
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,0
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,2
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,n-1,1|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,4
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,4
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Put these one atop each other and you get very near the layout used in my Vocal score for part of "Night has spread its pall once more" [though I condensed the tenor and bass to one stave] - not, perhaps, the piece that most NEEDS this feature, but one I had rapidly at hand.

Anyway, if we were given the ability to hide the triplets, the 9/8 against 3/4 suddenly looks exactly as it should, with [I believe] a minimum of extra coding. This also fixes problems such as the awkward triplets not quite looking right when an attempt is made to span two parts of a grand staff in Bar 37 of the Greig Piano Concerto provided in samples [just shut off the unwanted one] and may make quintets and other such things a snap, at least so far as printing is involved.

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Reply 1 by Adam Cuerden on 2006-01-06 21:41:20

	What's This?
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single) \|Note\|Dur:8th\|Pos:0\|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First \|Note\|Dur:8th,Triplet=First\|Pos:1\|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam \|Text\|Text:"5"\|Font:StaffItalic\|Pos:-8 \|Note\|Dur:8th,Triplet\|Pos:2\|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam \|Note\|Dur:8th,Triplet=End\|Pos:3\|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam \|Note\|Dur:8th\|Pos:4\|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End !NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Hide the triplet on that, and you have a perfectly functional quintet for printing [and probably "near enough" sound-wise if it's not exposed] with minimal fuss.

Reply 2 by Adam Cuerden on 2006-01-06 22:39:44

Looking about the forum, it'd appear that the ability to hide the dots on dotted notes may also be helpful, for similar reasons [if reversed]

Reply 3 by Peter Edwards on 2006-01-07 06:37:55

A more general request is to hide articulations of any sort so that simile can be used. But this has been suggested so many times already :-(