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View the msg source Started by Carl on 2005-11-16 00:33:27
I have written a piece in key of C. I want to change it to Eb (3 flats) and so I go to Tools|Transpose - 3 semi tones - OK. It moves all the notes correctly, but places flats beside them and doesn't change the key signature at all. I do not know where I am going wrong. Can someone help me? I have this happen is several pieces - all except the very first piece I entered. If I transpose it, everything works properly.

View the reply source  Reply 1 by Rick G on 2005-11-16 01:11:40
Make sure you have a key signature, even if the key is C major.

The only exception might be a percussion track.

You may also notice that if you save the file as a midi, every track takes the key sig of the first track.

View the reply source  Reply 2 by John Ford on 2005-11-16 04:15:06
Yeah, what Rick said. It's a common error. When something is in the key of C, it's easy not to actually set a key signature at the beginning "to the key of C", since it looks like it's already there (well, no sharps or flats, okay).

Just go to the beginning of the staff, press the "g" key on the keyboard, and select "C" from the popup menu. NWC will insert a non-printing natural sign as an indication that the piece is in the key of "C".

Hope this helps, and don't feel bad. I would bet that we've all done this at one point or another.

View the reply source  Reply 3 by John Ford on 2005-11-16 04:17:11
I'm sorry, I hate replying to my own replies, but I meant to say hit the "k" key to change the "key" of the piece. It's too early in the morning here and the coffee is just now finishing brewing. Hopefully my brain will actually be engaged shortly.

John

View the reply source  Reply 4 by Rob den Heijer on 2005-11-16 04:57:42
I hope your brain will be engaged to a beautiful brain.

View the reply source  Reply 5 by Ewan Harwood on 2005-11-16 15:21:03
What's the world coming to? Short engagements! Marrying for beauty!! There'll be tears before bedtime!!!

View the reply source  Reply 6 by Rob den Heijer on 2005-11-16 16:42:52
Yes, tears of laughter, thanks. Nearly bedtime anyway, in the Amsterdam timezone.

View the reply source  Reply 7 by Robin Withey on 2005-11-17 03:40:18
Yes, Ewan - "To what is the world coming?"
I think only the most pedantic of grammar police (like my Grammar - um, I mean, Grandma!) would take issue with you on this one!

Robin

View the reply source  Reply 8 by Graham R. on 2005-11-17 11:47:17
Ewan, I'm going to allow that one.
It's idiomatic.
[I've been out on the town having drinks with the boys, so I'm feeling generous.]

View the reply source  Reply 9 by datkind on 2005-11-18 06:26:17
Hey! I noticed that there someone like you (Graham R.) here is, so let you me everything try! And by the way, does anyone understand the word order in the senteces above?

View the reply source  Reply 10 by Robin Withey on 2005-11-18 07:07:20
datkind - It's either German or Yoda!

View the reply source  Reply 11 by Rob den Heijer on 2005-11-18 08:42:06
Klingon?

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